Types of Military Discharges

Many civilians commonly assume that people “retire” from the military when they leave the service, which isn’t always the case. Receiving a discharge, or separation, is not the same thing as military retirement.  A military discharge is simply defined as a military member being released from their obligation to continue service in the armed forces. A discharge relieves the veteran from any future military service obligations where as a retired reserve individual may be called back to active duty.  A separation from the military can be voluntary or involuntary, and may leave additional unfulfilled military service obligation that will need to be carried out in the Individual Ready Reserve. It’s important to note that there are several types of military discharges, and these can have a profound impact on a veteran’s ability to receive veterans benefits, serve in government employment, reenlist in the military, and more.

Types of Military Discharges

Military discharge rating - types of military dischargesThe type of military discharge a veteran receives will be listed on his or her DD-214 Military Discharge Paperwork. The following are a list of various types of military discharges:

Honorable Discharge

If a military service member received a good or excellent rating for their service time, by exceeding standards for performance and personal conduct, they will be discharged from the military honorably. An honorable military discharge is a form of administrative discharge.

General Discharge

If a service member’s performance is satisfactory but the individual failed to meet all expectations of conduct for military members, the discharge is considered a general discharge.  To receive a general discharge from the military there has to be some form of nonjudicial punishment to correct unacceptable military behavior. A general military discharge is a form of administrative discharge.

Other Than Honorable Conditions Discharge

The most severe type of military administrative discharge is the Other Than Honorable Conditions.  Some examples of actions that could lead to an Other Than Honorable Discharge include security violations,  use of violence, conviction by a civilian court with a sentence including prison time, or being found guilty of adultery in a divorce hearing (this list is not a definitive list; these are only examples).  In most cases, veterans who receive an Other Than Honorable Discharge cannot re-enlist in the Armed Forces or reserves, except under very rare circumstances.  Veteran’s benefits are not usually available to those discharged through this type of discharge.





Bad Conduct Discharge (BCD)

The Bad Conduct Discharge is only passed on to enlisted military members and is given by a court-martial due to punishment for bad conduct.  A Bad Conduct discharge is often preceded by time in military prison.  Virtually all veteran’s benefits are forfeited if discharged due to Bad Conduct.

Dishonorable Discharge

If the military considers a service members actions to be reprehensible, the general court-martial can determine a dishonorable discharge is in order.  Murder and sexual assault are examples of situations which would result in a dishonorable discharge.  If someone is dishonorably discharged from the military they are not allowed to own firearms according to US federal law. Military members who receive a Dishonorable Discharge forfeit all military and veterans benefits and may have a difficult time finding work in the civilian sector.

Officer Discharge

Commissioned officers cannot receive bad conduct discharges or a dishonorable discharge, nor can they be reduced in rank by a court-martial. If an officer is discharged by a general court-martial, they receive a Dismissal notice which is the same as a dishonorable discharge.

Entry Level Separation (ELS)

If an individual leaves the military before completing at least 180 days of service, they receive an entry level separation status.  This type of military discharge can happen for a variety of reasons (medical, administrative, etc.) and is neither good or bad, though in many cases, service of less than 180 may prevent some people from being classified as a veteran for state and federal military benefits.

How to Upgrade a Military Discharge

In some situations, you may be eligible to apply to have your military discharge upgraded to a higher rating. However, despite, the rumors, there is no automatic upgrade process. You must apply to have your discharge upgraded by downloading DD Form 293Application for the Review of Discharge or Dismissal from the Armed Forces of the United States. You must then submit the form to the Discharge Review Board within 15 years of your discharge. If your discharge was more than 15 years ago, you must request a change to your military records. Here is more information about military discharge upgrades. It is a complicated process, and one that is often best done with the help of legal assistance.

How Military Discharge Information Should Be Used for Job Interviews

This information should be used as a reference only – especially if you are an employer researching a job applicant. Due to legal issues surrounding Equal Employment Opportunities and related laws, one should be careful in the interview process. It is generally illegal to ask which type of discharge a military veteran received, unless it is to ask whether or not an applicant received an Honorable or General Discharge if you are ascertaining whether or not the applicant qualifies for veteran’s preference. Read more about illegal job interview questions.

However, even if the veteran did not receive one of these types of discharges, it doesn’t necessarily mean they were discharged for bad conduct, as the reason could have been a medical discharge or other administrative discharge. It is usually best to keep the line of questioning centered around the job applicant’s experience and qualifications. For example, you can ask them if they have military service,the period of their service, rank at time of separation, type of training, leadership, and work experience, qualifications and certifications, and anything else relevant to the specific position for which they are applying. See your Human Resources office for more information.




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Date published: January 19, 2011. Last updated: January 26, 2015.

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Ryan Guina is the founder and editor of this site. He is a writer, small business owner, and entrepreneur. He served over 6 years on active duty in the USAF and is currently serving in the IL Air National Guard. He also writes about money management, small business, and career topics at Cash Money Life. You can also see his profile on Google.

Comments

  1. joe says

    Im in the national guard and only have 2 months left until my ets. I didnt go to drill because I make more money at my civilian job than I do in the guard. The commander said that they were going to (involuntary extend) me so they can awol me. Is this possible can they extend my contract without my consent? What should I do?

    • says

      Joe, To be honest, I don’t know. By why risk it? It’s only two months. Why put several years of good conduct and a potential Honorable Discharge on the line for a few dollars? If you are having financial difficulties, then speak with your chain of command and ask if you can miss the last two drills. Many Guard and Reserve commands are willing to work with troops in these matters. If they say yes, you get what you were seeking – increased pay, and you won’t have to attend drill. The problem comes from not attending drill and not notifying anyone, or at least skipping drill without permission. That is when they can potentially charge you with AWOL. It’s not worth the risk, Joe.

  2. Sergio Garcia says

    Well for me I served 11 years in the Guard and did my tours OIF-OEF and after 11 years missing the two weeks of anual training I was reduced in Rank then after continuing my drills and compleating a 2 week anual training and showing my unit I was dependable and never got in trouble in the 11 years of service I was sent a letter that I was discharged from the military considering I had just put in paperwork for a second re-enlistment , yes I used jag and were no help at all useless and for this I received a other than honorable discharge witch first of all the reduction hould have been sufficient punishment or wage garnishement considering I had served for 11 years flawlessly and with honor , my rank was taken, then Discharged after almost half a year after incident and was not even told I really wanted to finish my 20 bit was striped of that honor I would have continued to serve for free thats howmuch I loved being in the military if there is anybody out there that can help me in any way please feel free to contact me thank you.

  3. E J Jafari says

    My father was discharged from the military after being diagnosed with meningitis in June 1948, with a “8-2U” reason. What does the code “8-2U” mean?

  4. Darleen says

    Hi, I spent 24 yrs in the US Army Reserve. I spent time on active duty during these years but never the 180 consecutive days. I will get my retirement pay next Feb 2015. Am I ever considered a veteran? I put in allot of time in my military career and I feel I deserve some type of acknowledgement as a veteran. Will this come through when I collect retirement?

    • says

      Jose, The military can discharge a service member for drug related offenses regardless of where the incident took place. Drugs are illegal according to the UCMJ, so it doesn’t matter where the drugs are taken – if a service member tests positive for drugs, he can receive a dishonorable discharge. This includes smoking marijuana in a state where it is “legal,” such as Colorado. It is still illegal at the federal level and according to the UCMJ.

  5. jim eichler says

    I own a gun shop the doj does not accept a retirement card if it does not say honorably retired. many of my customers have over 20yrs in and their card just says us army retired. what’s the difference. I have a major with 32yrs in and it just says retired, not honorably. ????

    • says

      I’m not sure, Jim. It’s possible the ID cards were issued at a different time, or the retiree cards are for the Guard or Reserves, which have a different retiree ID card until the retiree reaches age 60.

  6. Colin says

    When “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell” was in effect, were people found to be gay discharged dishonorably? If so, does that continue to follow them now? If a military serviceman was dishonorably discharged under DADT can that be changed now that it is no longer in effect, or is it more of an “it was illegal at the time” thing so those servicemen were still in the wrong?

    • says

      Colin, Right now there is no automatic change to the discharge status under DADT rules. However, one can apply to have a discharge upgraded, and a bill has been proposed that would help smooth the passage of those discharge upgrades.

  7. Anthony says

    I served just over a year and a half in the army national guard. Some unfortunate things happened in my life with my family and i needed to seek help to get out of depression.Therefore causing me to miss training and drills. The army Discharged me under honorable conditions since i did so well while i was in. Will this prevent jobs from hiring me in the future and is being discharged under honorable conditions bad?

    • says

      Anthony, I’m not sure what you are asking. The discharge classifications are: Honorable, General, Other Than Honorable, Bad Conduct, and Dishonorable. An Honorable discharge is the best you can have. There is nothing bad about it. If you mean you have an “Other Than Honorable” discharge, then it won’t have a positive impact and could have a negative impact. At least raise questions with the potential hiring company. You do not, however, need to disclose your discharge rating, except in certain circumstances. So if you have an “Other Than Honorable” discharge, I simply wouldn’t volunteer that information.

  8. Anthony says

    Hey Ryan , Thanks for the quick response. The discharge reads: General discharge under honorable conditions? bad, good?

    • says

      Anthony, A General Discharge is one step below an Honorable Discharge. It’s usually an administrative discharge and generally isn’t considered bad, but it’s also not considered great. However, because yours says “under Honorable conditions,” yours can be considered good. At this point, I don’t think it will hurt you. Best of luck getting everything straightened out, and best of luck in your civilian career!

  9. Sam Falzone says

    After two weeks of basic training, a relative of mine was tested positive for drugs and was given an Entry Level Separation. Must he reveal this information on job applications or interviews? Thank you.

    • says

      Generally it is unnecessary to disclose an entry level separation to future employers. However, this may not be the case if applying for certain jobs at the state or federal level.

  10. mike says

    what type of discharge would i receive if i am depressed and always angry and am not happy? i am also not adjusting to military life. i have been in the navy since july 22nd 2014. i can’t take doing this anymore but i haven’t told anyone because i don’t want it to affect me from getting a good job when i get out. how should i go about getting a discharge?

    • Leon says

      Mike,

      I am a senior enlisted leader in the Marine Corps. I encourage you seek assistance through your chain of command. If you do not have confidence in your chain of command, I recommend you talk with your Chaplain, or Medical Officer. You do not need to disclose the nature of your visit to anyone but them. If anyone forces you to ask, tell them politely that you do not want to disclose the nature of your visit. It really is as simple as that. The other avenue, is a request mast, where you get to see the Commanding Officer and express your concerns. Best of luck to you.

      Leon

  11. Jonathan says

    Can one still receive a honorable discharge if they have patterns of misconduct such as 2 article 15 for not being a point a place of duty and not keeping in contact with chain of command while on convelecent leave for ankle surgery but while at work soldier is squared away

    • says

      Jonathan, That will likely depend on the unit you are assigned to and how things are going when you separate from the military. If your First Sergeant and/or Commander like you and want to help you out, then you may be able to get an Honorable Discharge when you separate. Otherwise, it will depend on the circumstances of your separation. It would not be uncommon to see a General Discharge, or Other than Honorable Discharge for two Article 15s.

  12. Jonathan says

    Also to be noted there is much more as far as unfair treatment to my ankle situation it’s just a lot to type unless you have time to read a lot of info I would be greatly appreciative thank you

  13. Charles Blake says

    I recieved a medical separation in the marines I had 2weeks left before I was to graduate from bootcamp am I able to recieve any benefit once I swore in I became property of the us government

    • says

      Charles, You will need to contact the VA and inquire about benefits you may be eligible to receive. However, in general, veterans are required to serve a certain amount of time before they are eligible for benefits. The only way you will be able to find out for certain is to contact the VA. Best of luck.

  14. Todd says

    Hello, my question is when I was 18(37now) I join the army. I stupidly intentionally failed the final pt test because I wanted to go home for a girl (huge mistake!). When I was released they gave me a discharge of other then honorable (conduct) this looks terrible on my record. I am now 20yrs later trying to become a police officer. This has been a road block is their anyway to get this changed or expunged?? Thanks

    • says

      Todd, Here is our article about applying for a military discharge upgrade. It looks like you are outside the 15 year window, so you would need to request a military records correction. To be honest, I think you are facing an uphill battle. It may be possible, but I’m not an expert here. You may consider speaking with a lawyer that specializes in military law. Best of luck!

  15. john says

    Hello, so I got a OTH discharge for being AWOL for 9 months I turned my self in and received a article 15 njp. I know I cant get a job at the federal level, but will this affect me in getting into the medical field? Im trying to become a nurse or a emt but my live scan thru the fbi is delayed , is this a serious issue?

    • says

      John, To be honest, I don’t know how this will affect your chances of getting into the medical field. It depends on the requirements of the licensing organization you need to go through. My recommendation is to contact the licensing board for whichever professional license(s) you need to get a job in your desired field.

  16. czel fillmore says

    my husband was honorably discharged from the military with an article 15. how will that affect him in job interviews? he seemed can’t find any job in any case for the past years now.

    • says

      Czel, Thank you for contacting me. An honorable discharge is the best discharge rating there is, so that shouldn’t have a negative effect on his job search. There are many other factors that can have an impact on finding a job, including the local economy, the veteran’s skills. willingness to relocate or work odd hours, and much more. The best I can recommend is for the veteran to contact a job search company that specializes in helping veterans find work. There are many such organizations that offer free assistance with crafting a good resume, practicing interviewing skills, searching job sites, and much more.

  17. daryl says

    Ryan, My wife is looking at separating from the military for pregnancy. When she is submitting the application it’s asking her to either be discharged or release from active duty. It also says that the release will place her in IRR and discharge says she is done done. Will either options effect her RE code?

    • says

      Daryl, To be honest, I’m not sure what the RE code is for separating due to pregnancy. I recommend your wife contact your base personnel department for more specific information about these options and how it will impact her going forward. You may even want to join her so you both have a full understanding of what her options are, what to expect, and how the decision will affect her ability to serve in the future, or how it will affect her future benefits. For example, will either type of separation impact the benefits she will have going forward (i.e. did she serve long enough to fulfill the Post-9/11 GI Bill, will she be eligible for the VA loan, does she qualify for other VA benefits, etc.)?

      Regarding a discharge or being released: A discharge means she is done with the military and cannot be called back. But it also means she is completely out, so going back into the military could be more difficult. That may not seem like a big deal now, but it could be a consideration later, especially if she is considering joining the Guard or Reserves. If she thinks she may wish to continue her service in the future in either the Guard or Reserves, then the release may be a better way to go, since she would transition into the IRR. It’s very easy to go from the IRR to the traditional Guard or Reserves. It may not be as easy to do so if she is discharged. At the minimum, a discharge means she would need to go through MEPS and the application process again.

  18. Juston says

    I’ve been in the military going on three years now and I have three left. I’ve been suffering from knee injuries that have effected my ability to run or walk long distances. I’ve sent in profile papers each month for almost a year and each time it got kicked back. Finally I got diagnosed with jumpers knees basically no cure just pain non stop. Knowing my pt test is in April and the chances of passing are slim…..what possible discharge can I receive. The only counseling statements I’ve gotten where for not passing the pt test.

    • says

      Juston, Thank you for contacting me. The most important thing is to have a written record of your medical condition and the attempts you have made to obtain a profile or medical waiver for your fitness test. This is essential because it will show that you have been proactive in your approach to receive medical care for your condition, and it will prove that you have an injury. Your medical records will also be helpful for claiming a service-connected disability rating through the VA, should the medical condition linger.

      Should things progress to the point of a discharge (you won’t get discharged after one PT Test failure), then you can request a medical board to review your case to see if you should be discharged for medical reasons.

      This can be a long and complicated process, and is something you should seek assistance with if possible. You can start with your enlisted advisor such as your First Sergeant (if you are enlisted), or with someone else in your chain of command.

      The bottom line is there is no cut and dry path here. Some commands are willing to work with their troops, and others take a hard line approach. Each unit is different. Just remember that no one will keep your interests in mind better than you. So do your part to get the medical care you need and ensure it is documented properly. This will go a long way toward ensuring you get a positive military discharge, and possibly receive some benefits after you leave the military. Best of luck, and thanks for your service!

  19. Jacob says

    Can the military discharge you for no reason? I thought I read somewhere a couple years ago that the military just started randomly firing people because of the new budget or something. I want to join the military when I graduate but I don’t want to end up getting discharged for no reason and end up broke.

  20. Kaysha Honeycutt says

    I will have had 5 years active duty, but the Navy is downsizing and my “c-way” is being denied. My question is will this be considered an Honorable discharge, involuntary separation, if I don’t tell them I will cross-rate to stay in?

    • says

      Kaysha, Thank you for contacting me. If you are not allowed to reenlist in your career field and choose not to cross train into a different career field, then the military will not hold it against you. You should be allowed to separate after your contract is up with the discharge rating you earned. If you have no administrative, non-judicial, or judicial actions, then you should rate an Honorable Discharge.

  21. D. Budd says

    I am being threatened with an Adminstrative separation package that would give me an OTH discharge. I extended for a year in the reserves after my honorable 8 year service in the reserves was over. I attended 2 drills and upon not being able to attend another drill because of work conflict…I was told there could be no make up and I would be dropped to the IRR. here it is 5 months later and I have been told if I don’t make up the drills that I will be Administratively separatively. What can i do if I dont have enough time to make up the drills before my end of current contract but I am willing to make them up?

    • says

      D. Budd, Thanks for contacting me. This is a tricky situation. I recommend starting with your First Sergeant. He should be your point of contact for this type of thing. Explain the situation, that you couldn’t get off work, and that you have done your best to reschedule your Drills, but haven’t been able to make them up. Explain that you are willing to do everything in your power to remain in good standing with your unit. If you are not planning on reenlisting, explain that you aren’t trying to hurt the unit or screw anyone over; you just want to be able to serve honorably and leave the military with an honorable discharge. If you are planning on trying to reenlist, then explain that situation. Basically, go into the meeting with a full explanation of what happened, how you plan on fixing the situation, and your desired outcome. Best of luck, and thanks for your service!

  22. Terrance R. says

    I received a General Under Honorable Conditions discharge over 10 years ago. I recently applied to purchase a firearm and was denied with no explanation, I want to apply for a carry permit so that I won’t have to apply for every purchase. Would my discharge effect it? I have no criminal record and with military mos I had topic secret security clearance……

    • says

      Terrance, Thank you for contacting me. I’m not familiar with most gun laws, so I don’t know the specifics for your question. But by itself, I don’t see why a General under Honorable Conditions should affect your ability to own or carry a gun. However, there could be another reason if you have some form of legal conviction in your personal record or military career. Other than that, I don’t have any answers.

  23. Bobby Gaines says

    Lets cut to the chase with one week before completing basic training I developed a medical condition, but instead of receiving a medical discharge I got an honorable instead do I qualify for benefits. By the way this was in 1980.

    • says

      Bobby, to be honest, there are many factors that would determine how they classify your discharge. Most likely you received an administrative discharge. Should it have been a medical discharge? I honestly don’t know. That’s determined on a case by case basis. My recommendation would be to contact a Veterans Service Organization such as the DAV or VFW to help you determine what, if any, benefits you should be eligible to receive. These organizations typically offer free benefits claims assistance.

  24. Zach says

    Hello, I am 3 years into a 6 year enlistment in the army national guard. I’m currently attending college, but in the past year have had serious focusing and procrastination problems. I have always had those problems with school but didn’t care in grade school. Now that it is affecting my college however, I’m worried I have adhd. My question is if I am diagnosed with adhd, would I be separated from the military, and if so what type of discharge. Note I have never been diagnosed and have only started thinking that it could be a mental issue this past year.

    • says

      Zach, Thank you for contacting me. ADHD can be a problem when you go to join the military, but if you are already in the military, they will typically try to work with you to manage any issues you may have. It would be a good idea to speak to a physician or counselor to be tested for ADHD or other issues and get the help you need so you can complete your studies. You can also request to speak with a military doctor to find out which medication(s) are recommended or allowed while in the military. Hopefully you will be able to get your military and civilian doctors to work together to find a treatment plan that will give you the help you need and allow you to continue your military career. Best of luck, and thanks for your service!

  25. Trey says

    Is it possible to get an honorable discharge without completing your first enlistment? Also, and I know this varies greatly, but how exactly would a general discharge under honorable conditions look to an employer if you got out before the end of your enlistment? Would they ask why? If so, how would you go about responding to that if you preferred not to answer?

  26. Justin says

    I am in the coast guard and I am not happy here at all. I have only been in for about 3 months and I want to get it and go about my life in a different way. Am I able to do that? And how would that affect my future?

  27. Nick says

    I received a honorable discharge from the USAF but the separation code is JHJ and for some reason doesn’t allow me to use the GI Bill? I have wrote letters and met with people at the VA and has lead to nothing. I writing because now I’m going to apply for a VA or Cal vet home loan and I’m wondering if that code is going to impact the loan process? The code JHJ is the separation code and is my road block to va benefits. Is it possible to have the separation code reviewed and changed? Thanks

    • says

      Hello Nick, Thank you for contacting me. It looks like the reentry code JHJ stands for “Unsuitability (Reason Unknown)/ Unsatisfactory performance.” Does this sound right to you? For example, did you get separated for failure to meet standards, failing an academic of physical fitness test, or something similar? Or perhaps you weren’t allowed to reenlist due to some negative information in your file? If that is the case, then it sounds like your reentry code may be correct, and your Commander was nice to give you the Honorable Discharge rating. If that isn’t the case, and you didn’t have anything negative on your file, then perhaps your reentry code was recorded incorrectly.

      To correct your reenlistment eligibility code, you will need to contact the Air Force Board for Correction of Military Records, and fill out a DD Form 149. More information is on this page. Unfortunately, I can’t give you an estimate for how long a records correction might take. Your best bet is to get a contact at the AFBCMR that you can speak with on a regular basis so you can follow up on the process.

      Best of luck, and thanks for your service!

  28. Shan says

    Hi if I got pregnant but I wasn’t aware of it in the process of becoming enrolled in the army ,what kind of discharge will I receive ? An ELS?

    • says

      Shan, Thank you for contacting me. This all depends on when you joined the service, and how long you have been in. If this occurred right before you went to basic training, then there would be no discharge, since you wouldn’t actually be in the military yet. If your pregnancy was discovered when you reported to Basic Training, then it would likely be an Entry Level Separation (ELS). If this happened after Basic Training, then it may be an ELS, depending on how long you were in the service. If you have more specific questions, you can ask your personnel flight. They will be able to give you more specific information for your situation.

  29. Emma says

    I am an enlisted future soldier in the army reserve. What if I chicken out before basic training because it’s making my life more complicated and I can’t take the stress? Of course, I realized the commitment and I am trying, I just wanted to know? Also, I have a doctors appointment next week to make sure I don’t have cancer. What if I do though? That’s something I can’t even control…

    • says

      Emma, Thank you for contacting me. It sounds like you have a lot going on. Let’s start with the most important thing – your health. I pray you don’t have cancer, but if you do, then the military would not allow you to enter the military until you get past this health condition. If something changes with your medical condition, you would be required to inform the military before you ship out to Basic Training. Let’s hope this is just a false alarm!

      As for deciding not to go to Basic Training, that’s completely different. To be honest, I’m not completely sure how this is handled. The best way to find out is to ask a recruiter. Now I would probably not ask your recruiter unless you believe your recruiter will tell you the honest truth. Instead, consider contacting a different recruiter, and ask what the ramifications would be, if any, if you are in the Delayed Entry Program and decide not to ship out to basic Training. It certainly couldn’t affect a discharge rating, because you haven’t officially joined the military at that point.

      But it’s quite possible this is just a case of the nerves. It’s natural to be nervous before shipping out to Basic Training. My recommendation is to first find out your health status. That is the most important thing in your life. If everything checks out, then a huge amount of stress will automatically disappear. And then you can turn your attention toward the military. At that point, talk to some new Soldiers and see how they have adapted to the transition from the civilian world to the military environment. Speaking to someone who is in the military will give you a different perspective on what you are going into. I wish you the best of health, and I’m sure the rest of it will work itself out.

  30. Anthony says

    Ryan,

    First my brother is a foreigner and not a US Citizen. My brother was been discharged 2 weeks before graduation from Basic Training just because during interview with the DOD background check interviewer prior to shipping out for basic training, he told the interviewer when asked whether he will denounce his citizenship with the foreign country and he answered NO. He did not know the implication and was not informed by the recruiter about the implication of not denouncing his foreign citizenship. This is very sad because he really wanted to serve and should have answered YES to the denunciation question. The sad thing is that they did not tell him about this till 2 weeks to his graduation from Basic Training after he has spent weeks in training and was on track to graduate from basic training. Does he have any recourse? I felt that he should have been notified before shipping out of his ineligibility due to the non-denunciation instead of letting him go through the whole basic training and then been discharged towards the last 2 weeks just for a question he did unknowingly answer incorrectly prior to basic training. This is very sad and unjust. Please any advise on recourse?

    • says

      Anthony, Thank you for contacting me. To be honest, this is a situation I haven’t come across. The best course of action is for your brother to speak with his recruiter to determine what his next steps are, and to see if he has the opportunity to change his answer or go through Basic Training again. I honestly don’t know how the process works. But his recruiter should have some insight into the process and should be able to guide him. Best of luck!

  31. meredith schreckengost says

    Hi I’m getting discharged from the Coast Guard for 2 alcohol incidents. I didn’t get any DUIs. Nothing happened during the workday. All after the workday. I’ve been in for 4 years in June. I’m a hard worker and always have been. Besides the 2 incidents my record is clean. I’ve always had high marks and my supervisors think highly of me. I’ve always had good behavior. These incidents were just dumb mistakes of a 21 year old. My question is would my command give me a general discharge even if I qualify for an Honorable?

    • says

      Meredith, Thank you for contacting me. I can’t answer for your Command, but if you are being discharged for two alcohol related incidents then you may not even qualify for an Honorable discharge. It may be possible, but in general, it’s rare to receive an Honorable discharge when you are being discharged from the military due to misconduct. The best course of action is to contact your base legal team or someone in your chain of command so you can learn more about what your discharge rating you will receive and what your options are going froward. Best of luck, and thanks for your service!

  32. norma villa says

    hi,
    my son is in the air force in basic training, he is going to be discharged because they were going to do a lie detector test and they ask him before hand if he had ever done any drugs to admit it now or later get in big trouble for lying. He answered yes once a year before he apply for the military and for this reason he will be discharged. Will he be able to apply to another branch?

    • says

      Norma, Thank you for contacting me. To be honest, I don’t know. It depends on his discharge rating when he gets discharged from the Air Force. But I will say that lying on the military application is a serious issue, and he almost certainly will not be able to go back into the Air Force. If he is still interested in joining the military, then he will need to contact a recruiter with a different branch of service and he will need to explain the entire situation up front, including his drug use, lying on his application to join the Air Force, and getting discharged because he lied on his application. The recruiter with the different branch of service will then be able to give him more information regarding his potential for joining that branch of service.

  33. Pablo says

    Hi Ryan,
    Due to a myriad of personal problems, my wife’s 30-something year old daughter is staying with us temporarily. Her deal was this : back when she was 18 she enlisted in the Navy and after 2 weeks into basic training, she had a nervous breakdown. She then spent 6 weeks in a military mental hospital/facility and then was released from the Navy. She calls herself “veteran” on social media sites and when she tries to get financial assistance she always clicks the veteran box. When I told her she most likely wasn’t a veteran and not to get her hopes up for any benefits, she told me she got an honorable discharge. I asked to see her DD-214 and she replied that she never remembered getting one, and she is currently in touch with the VA and they are going to send her the appropriate transcripts. My question is this : Doesn’t her scenario seem more like an ELS than an honorable discharge ?

    • says

      Pablo, Thank you for contacting me. Based on this information, yes, it seems like it would be an Entry-Level Separation. There generally aren’t benefits associated with an ELS, except under limited circumstances. The best course of action is to get a copy of the DD 214 from the National Archives or from her service personnel office if they haven’t yet been sent to the National Archives. The DD 214 will show the type of military separation. It will also be required for proof of service, or applying for benefits (if eligible).

  34. Teresa says

    My daughter is in BCT Army she was rushed by her recruiter promised such wonders, and was gone with in weeks of applying, she was sworn in shipped out 4/21/15 she called me crying telling me she made the biggest mistake in her life that she is very depressed crying hysterically she was told she would see a counselor the next day. She called me the next day “the last call” said they are making me go and I can not talk about anything else. I received my 1st letter from her today along with the official one they do. She basically is having bouts of depression she told them she was having suicidal thoughts and has informed her 1st Sargent and DS she is not physically or mentally tough enough to be an army soldier, they took her military gun for that I am grateful, so that’s acknowledging and issue, how ever they have not let her speak with doctor as for as I know. They have told her not to think about things that make her sad she is not their priority, and she probably will not leave until she pays back the money that the army has spent on her, she gets yelled at every day the whole platoon and others call her pathetic, stinky, they have group photos the “gracious volunteers” took on facebook, knew as soon as I saw them she was already singled out and tormented for any and every insult. Reading her letter she describes racing thoughts not feeling like her self any more, and not knowing who she is when she looks in a mirror. She has not been in BCT more than 3 weeks.
    By the way, she never in her life by any means would be called those things she’s more a humanitarian type,very beautiful, hard worker, she is compassionate, and caring.
    There method of character building is hugely flawed, it does not work for all the future soldiers. I feel as though she is a victim now, and will probably be discharged home with medical issues if she is subjected to this treatment any longer. MY question is there anything I can do, will she get discharged.

  35. perry DOMINGUE says

    On my DD214 it reads discharge, under honorable conditions, can this be reviewed and upgraded its been over 15 years?

    • says

      Perry, Thank you for contacting me. If it has been longer than 15 years you will need to apply for a Correction of Military Records. This is a different process that the record review board.

  36. Ana says

    Hello. My mother in law who lives with us now is unemployed and has a heart condition. Because she moved here from another state they are saying she doesn’t qualify for any type of medical benefits, medicaid, medicare… She needs to see a cardiologist and we are running out of options. She was married to my husbands father for 17 years. He was in the Air Force before they divorced, I would think she could get some type of military spouse benefit but she says he was discharged. I’m not sure what type of discharge, but so far with this information, is there anything you know about her being able to get some sort of medical benefit through the military? THANK YOU!

    • says

      Ana, Thank you for contacting me. There aren’t many military benefits that extend to divorced spouses of former military members. In limited circumstances, there may be some benefits available if the military member actually retired from the military after 20 years of service, they were married minimum of 20 years, and the former spouse remains unmarried. You can read more about this here (see the 20/20/20 rule).

      It doesn’t sound like there would be any available benefits through the military if they were married for less than 20 years, and if he did not retire from the military. I hope your mother-in-law will be able to find health care coverage soon.

  37. Jean says

    Hi, I applied for a job and the background investigation came back with FBI records showing the military discharge for use of spice.

    I would like to know if you are given a general discharge for an admission of using spice (synthetic marijuana) and the interviewing officer tells you that since you did not test positive for the spice and since I was never charged criminal by the military this would not go on my record. Do I have any recourse to get this corrected or removed from the FBI records?

    • says

      Jean, Thank you for contacting me. To be honest, I don’t know the technical aspects of how discharge records are maintained, and whether or not you can request the record be changed. I imagine it would follow a similar process to getting a discharge upgraded, but I’m not certain.

      You will need to do further research on this, or you may need to hire someone with experience in this. I don’t have any specific recommendations for hiring lawyers. But you may try contacting a veterans service organization such as the DAV, VFW, American Legion, etc. to see if they have any recommendations for lawyers who specialize in military law. Best of luck, and thanks for your service!

  38. chris says

    Alright so I’ve been in the national guard for almost a year and a half and I just recently had my asthma pop up again with a couple of asthma attacks lately and I went to the doctors and they prescribed me a exhalier for my asthma, if I got discharged how would that work and what kind of discharge would I get because of the fact that it just recently popped back up again.

    • says

      Chris, Thanks for reaching out. It would either be an honorable discharge or a medical discharge, which is usually listed as administrative (neither good, nor bad). This is provided you don’t have any unfavorable information files or any negative action pending. In the end, it shouldn’t be a problem. I hope you get your asthma under control. Best of luck!

  39. don says

    My father was in the ARMY from Nov 1947 till Feb 1950. the papers I have found say certificate of separation. is that the same as a discharge?

    • says

      Hi Don, I would think so – I believe the current separation paperwork was first used in 1950, but some units continued using the old forms until they were exhausted. So his form is probably different than the current forms. I am not an expert on the old forms and documentation, so I can’t be 100% certain. But it sounds like they are the same thing.

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